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Cro-Magnon and Atlanteans with "Perfect" Characteristics (by A Future Archaeologist)

11/4/2016

21 Comments

 
In Species with Amnesia, Robert Sepehr claims that the "Out-of-Africa" model of human evolution is wrong and that modern humans, represented by Cro-Magnon, really came from Atlantis. For this blog post we will be focusing on Sepehr's claims about the physical characteristics and genetics of these Cro-Magnon “Atlanteans”.  According to Sepehr (pages 24-25)

"modern Northern Europeans are most similar to Cro magnon’s : Tall, high Frequency of RH negative blood type , fair haired and blue-eyed.”

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PictureOne of many incorrect figures found online showing Cro-Magnon people as being very tall.
Tall

​One of Sepher's claims is that Cro-Magnon (now more commonly known as Early European Modern Human (EEMH)) had an average height “well over six feet" (page 51). The reason this is important is because then Cro-Magnon would have the closest similarity to Sepehr's imaginary Atlanteans.

​This claim is simply not true, at least not at the moment with the current evidence. I can find no reliable source that says that Cro-Magnon had an average of well over 6 feet tall. The closest thing to this claim I could find were that “Males were 5 feet 4 inches to 6 feet tall" ( Dennis O’Neal ). Also, another source (Mysteries of Life, Death and Beyond by Patrick Conte) says “their average height is considered to be about five foot, nine inches, but some may have stood six feet five inches or taller.” “May” is not the same as did or was. Someone cannot just say that just because something may have been true, that it is well supported. 

RH Negative Blood

Another thing Sepehr claims in his book is that because there are RH+ and RH- people, and RH+ is commonly found in the Rhesus monkey, that humans must have interbred with other species and that people with RH- blood are the pure bred Atlanteans. He states (page 24):
 
“Karl Landsteiner and Alexander s. Wiener discovered the RH blood factor. 85% of the human population has the RH D antigen on their red blood cells which was in common with rhesus monkey, while 15% of the population mysteriously do not have the antigen. The 1994-2002 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica says that the Sweden county Dalarna today is characterized by almost pure Cro-Magnon.”
 
Unfortunately for him this has a simple explanation that does not involve Atlanteans: mutation!

Mutation is an important part of evolution by natural selection. When an individual has a mutation that is beneficial, that individual can pass on its genes to the next generation. Researchers think that RH- blood makes people more resistant to certain kinds parasites.  Perhaps there are evolutionary reasons why RH- blood occurs in high frequency in Sweden. 

So how do we know Cro-Magnon people were RH-? We don't. But in Sepher's view, since Swedes are "almost pure Cro-Magnon," and Cro-Magnon are the closest thing to pure blooded Atlanteans, people with RH– blood are pure blooded Atlanteans.

Fair-Haired and Blue-Eyed

Sepehr's argument about fair-haired and blue-eyed Cro-Magnon people follows much of the same pattern as his RH- argument. In fact, most of his arguments stem from the  “fact” that Atlanteans (of which there is no evidence) are most like Cro-Magnon, who are most like modern northern Europeans.

Scientist don’t know exactly why the genes for lighter skin, blue-eyes and fair hair appeared, but a recent genetic study suggests that white skin only evolved  about 8000 years ago, well after the earliest "Cro-Magnon" skeletons. 

Conclusion

Basically, Sepehr seems to be trying to say that the earliest "modern" humans in Europe where tall, blond, white people very similar to the northern Europeans of today. This fits overall with his argument of the superiority of "Atlanteans" and their descendants (i.e., white people). There is no evidence that Atlantis was anything more than a myth, yet it is important to Sepehr that the Atlanteans are are tall, fair haired and have blue eyes. He has created a fictional superior people that he says are very much like modern northern Europeans. He also has a very Nazi-like imperial eagle symbol on the back cover of the book. 

Overall, his concepts prove nothing about Cro-Magnons being related to Atlantis.  To even take his arguments seriously you would first have to believe that Atlanteans were real, of course, which no one has proved . They are just puzzle pieces that he cut out himself to fit a narrative.

21 Comments
Doug Crowell
11/28/2016 08:32:38 am

Thanks for the review Andy. I know that I was taught that Cro-Magnon people were comparable in height to Neanderthals, which agrees with your observation. Enjoyed the read.

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Wendy
5/28/2022 10:06:41 am

You do more research into symbols. Just because Nazis used certain symbols doesn’t mean they don’t have a much more ancient origin that has nothing to do with crazy Nazi ideology.

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Carl Feagans link
11/28/2016 08:50:22 am

Good review! Thanks for saving me the angst of reading Sepehr. I've been curious about what his claims are, but haven't wanted to put any cash in his pocket by buying one of his books.

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Wes Copas
11/28/2016 09:38:33 am

Ugh. Thanks for the heads-up, so to speak, and the example for my next semester classes when we get to pseudoscience.

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John Smith
10/27/2018 01:42:49 pm

Cro magnon had a large craanium, one of them I know was over 1700cc and that means they were indeed very tall, as narrow hips are a trait of upright walking hominids and that large skull must fit through female anatomy. Sepehr is correct, and i love his videos on Youtube!

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Carl Feagans link
10/27/2018 10:10:31 pm

What you "know" is actually incorrect about "Cro Magnon."

Cro Magnon is more a term of geography than anything else. The human remains found at Abri de Cro-magnon in Les Eyzies, France were fully human. The average cranial capacity was 1600 cc (not the "over 1700 cc" you claim to "know."

Also, based on their skeletal remains, their average stature was between 5'5" and 5'7" --somewhat small by today's standards. Not "very tall" by any measure.

Sepehr presents himself as an under-educated mystery-monger, ready to sell ignorance and stupidity to anyone willing to listen to his schtick. If you're relying on his youtube videos for your education, you will be forever ignorant.

My advice: abandon his pseudoscientific nonsense and visit your local library. Ask for books by people like Richard Klein, Chris Stenger, Erik Trinkhaus, and Brian Fagan.

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jason
10/7/2020 04:52:24 am

yes,robert is very much correct in his research. neanderthal askenazi controlling interest are always dodging roberts work.

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Guanche MacPhut
1/5/2021 02:45:28 am

Exactly buddy! This guy is just throwing shade on Sepehr because the existence of the Isle of Atlas proves that he, and his Edomite/Ashkenazite buddies, are not only nothing special, but a few rungs BELOW the tippy top where they fancy themselves to reside.

Noah was pure in his generations.

He who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Sean
6/11/2019 04:14:04 pm

"Scientist don’t know exactly why the genes for lighter skin, blue-eyes and fair hair appeared, but a recent genetic study suggests that white skin only evolved about 8000 years ago, well after the earliest "Cro-Magnon" skeletons."

Well if that's the case, why were Native Americans 1/3 White since the Ice Age?

https: //science. sciencemag.org/content/342/6157/409. full

Why is the European genome 36,000 Years old?

Solutreans - The First Americans Were White Europeans DNA proof:

https: // www. youtube. com/watch?v=jBH5rpIJhEE&feature=youtu. be

Scandinavians are the Earliest Europeans:

http: // sciencenordic. com/scandinavians-are-earliest-europeans

The Mystery of European Hair, Eye, and Skin Color:

https: // www. youtube. com/watch?v=MfbJwqmc3eg

Your mention of the theory that white skin and different coloured eyes and hair besides different shades of black and brown as only being 8,000 years old doesn't disprove the Cro-Magnon hypothesis, nor does it conclude that white skin and unique coloured eyes and hair is in fact 8,000 years old.

https: // www. ancient-origins. net/news-evolution-human-origins/did-light-skinned-redheaded-neanderthal-women-hunt-men-002698

[A study of ancient DNA by other researchers showed a mutation that may have resulted in red hair and light skin among Neanderthals, according to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History.

An article on the Smithsonian’s website says two Neanderthals, one from Spain and one from Italty, had a mutation in a gene controlling skin and hair color.

“The mutation changes an amino acid, making the resulting protein less efficient. Modern humans have other MCR1 variants that are also less active, resulting in red hair and pale skin. The less active Neanderthal mutation probably also resulted in red hair and pale skin, as in modern humans.”]

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Sean
6/11/2019 04:19:50 pm

*37,000-year-old genome most resembles Scandinavians

http://sciencenordic.com/scandinavians-are-earliest-europeans

[An international team of scientists have sequenced the genome of a 37,000-year-old male skeleton found in Kostenki in Russia.

The study, which was recently published in Science, sheds entirely new light on who we are as Europeans.

"From a genetic point of view he's a European," says Professor Eske Willerslev, Director of the Centre for GeoGenetics at the University of Copenhagen, who was involved in the new study, and adds:

“Actually, he is closer to Danes, Swedes, Finns and Russians than to Frenchmen, Spaniards and Germans”.]

More from Robert Sepehr:

https://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/05/scientific-research-on-aryans.html

http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/05/royal-blood-king-tuts-dna-results.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3611457/Ancient-DNA-study-finds-Phoenician-Carthage-European-ancestry.html

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Sean
6/11/2019 04:34:51 pm

My opinion on evolution is more similar to Friedrich Nietzsche than Charles Darwin's. If I were to make a guess on the evolutionary reason for why Whites have light skin, it would be the Younger Dryas.

I think the meteorite impact that's theorized to have struck Greenland leading to the end of the ice age some 12,800 years ago and the event that followed it 9,600 years ago resulted in not only a rise in global sea levels due to melting glaciers, the meteorite impact itself caused a mass extinction of life in the vicinity of a large portion of North America, Greenland, Europe and much of Siberia, North Africa, Asia Minor and Mesopotamia.

This likely forced our prehistoric ancestors underground where they are proven to have inhabited vast networks of enormous interconnecting caves throughout Europe and Asia Minor that to this very day remain for the most part largely unexplored.

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Sean
6/11/2019 04:37:54 pm

Though we have no way of knowing if lighter skin pigmentation is the result of reduced contact with the sun's UV radiation.

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Adam
2/17/2020 01:27:37 pm

I always enjoy being able to break down and really see through what a researcher might be trying to pass along. But, this short article leaves out a lot of research Robert touched on, like Indo-European language evolution, including the basque language, similarities in myths (like religion) across the world that seem to indictate world-wide communication or an older period of a shared culture than we can currently prove. Strange how multiple cultures around the world share the same myths about Giants and a flood. It's easy to ignore but does no justice to dismiss.

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Jason
3/11/2020 05:47:32 am

Thank goodness for Mr. Sephyr, that his theories can be backed up with research. We are blessed to have such a man with such high integrity as robert lifting the veil of lies that had befallen this country after project paperclip.

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CHAD
3/15/2020 03:12:55 pm

I have always found it peculiar that scientists claim that Rh negative blood is a "mutation". My suspicion lies with the fact that O negative is compatible with every blood type. How does this "mutation" take place? It would be more likely the other way around. The numerous other blood types are a "mutation" or that of a completely separate species of hominid. It would appear that O negative is the original blood type for human beings, giving way to the other blood types through breeding. The same would be true for the different "Races".
Taxonomically, there are 4 separate races of human - Mongoloid (East Asian), Caucasoid (European, West Asian), Negroid (West African), and Indigenous Australian (Aboriginals).
It would only make sense that each race stems from an entirely different hominid(s) with their own unique ancestrial lines. Then at some point, these different hominids bred to create what we have today. From a genetic and anthropological standpoint, Caucasoid is the oldest race. From this information, I can only imagine that they were the major contributors to the human race.

I always get a laugh when some Scientists or any person claims that the original humans were "black" and/or Negroids, and the other groups of races magically "mutated" to become who they are today. The Negroid race is the youngest race. Based on the data it seems evident that modern humans (Caucasoids) went into Africa around 12,000yrs ago and bred with an unknown hominid (the "ghost species" as it's called) to create the Negroid race.

*Study on oldest Negroid remains ever discovered

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303548328_The_archaeological_context_of_the_Iwo_Eleru_cranium_from_Nigeria_and_preliminary_results_of_new_morphometric_studies

*Genetic study into the origins of Europeans. Finds Europeans to be of the oldest of the Caucasoid race with little relation to the Negroid race. Study debunks "Out of Africa" hypothesis for Europeans.

http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=19566

When we look at the Anthropological evidence for the Mongoloid race (East Asian), we find some evidence that early Caucasoids bred with a different hominid to create a Asiatic Caucasoid race. The ancient Asians were a cross between Mongoloid and Caucasoid. We also see the same thing in early groups of Native Americans.

*https://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/33728/InTech-Bilogical_archeological_and_culturological_evidences_of_paleoasiatic_origin_of_northern_mongoloids_caucasoids_and_american_indians.pdf

It appears that Mr. Sepehr may have an idea of what actually took place back then. From all of the information gathered, we can see that there was certainly a more advanced culture/race of humans that made it's way around the globe breeding with other hominids to bring about the races and blood types of humanity.
Not to mention the numerous Red/Blonde haired Mummies found on nearly every continent, the ancient monoliths (which are most likely far older than what mainstream academia claims), and early "myths" of Red/Blonde haired, pale skinned, blue eyed, bearded race of "giants"/"gods" that many ancient cultures speak of.

There is a great deal of evidence that points to a Mysterious red/blonde haired race that predates our current understanding of history.... and to simply call what we cannot genetically explain a "mutation", does not suffice.

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Based Canadian
7/31/2020 09:10:29 pm

this was a terrible "debunking". Anyone who stumbles kn this article needs to go and actually read Robert Sepehrs book. Mainstrwan science is a lie and white Europeans do NOT come from blacks.

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jason
10/7/2020 05:01:30 am

i absolutely concur with your opinion sir, Mr. sephyr has done his homework unlike the author of this article.

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Tim
12/3/2020 03:41:34 am

I love how this thread became so robust and honest, dissolving the lies.

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Cringingatcucks
2/27/2021 12:10:30 pm

One thing these dribbling fucking retards like this author love to ignore every time this topic is brought up: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14325-first-europeans-shunned-neanderthal-sex/ 28,000 year old cro magnon skeleton had anatomically modern dna and skulls with NO neanderthal admixture and exclusively caucasian features. Cro magnon "sapiens" supposedly went up to europe 48,000 years ago and somehow in 20,000 years they evolved bigger skulls, blue eyes, greater height, etc? And when would all the evolution for all the other anatomically correct humans have taken place? Lmfao at this narrative you retards push.

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Salty
12/2/2021 08:34:23 am

Do you like dogs? All dogs came from the wolf. Yet not all dogs look anything like a wolf. How is that? Interbreeding and gene manipulation. If dogs can change that much in 10,000 years, what does that day about humans and different variations over 40,000-to whenever?...retard

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Voivode
5/5/2023 08:57:15 am

Intellectually lazy argument.. human beings bred dogs specifically for certain traits and features. We don't have chihuahuas by accident.

And thank you for brining up the "wolf" example.. The Cro-Magnon is the 'wolf' with all the other races being the 'chihuahuas', bred to be slaves. Cro-magnon is Caucasoid. All other races are derived from intermixing. Thanks for backing up the original argument....retard




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